CK30HST bad ignition switch

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2012 DK 45HST SE w/ FEL
My 2005 CK30HST has only 38 hours now. It has been parked for 2-3 month intervals inside during the winter. The battery looked beautiful on late falls inspection, however I fully expected it to die prematurely from sitting. My storage container at the rec. property does not have AC voltage yet to use a trickle charger.
During Memorial weekend '06 visit, the glow plug cycle did its thing and the engine wouldn't crank---the relays would click however.
I have wanted an excuse to install an Optima battery so I ran to town and got one to eliminate the acid disease. I was surprised the Kirkland/ Costco battery leaked/boiled some acid and trashed the positive cable which began a bit of rust on the battery tray. I neutralized and cleaned area, installed new Optima battery and still no crank.
With my limited tools at the property I used a piece of wire to jump the starter B+ connection to the solenoid and it cranked.
I traced the relay to being the one under the hood on the firewall right side. I jumped the two larger guage starter wires at the relay and it cranked.
I figured no juice was energizing relay.
I poked around ignition switch and learned if I turned switch like usual and let it back some it would crank and start.
My dealer is too far to hassle with returning the whole tractor and I don't have a trailer for my rig, so I am seeing if they will send me a warranty swich to install and I can send the bum one back. I looks like an easy replacement.
If they MUST have the tractor for warranty consideration, I will just buy a switch and put it in---I'll post the result of the transaction.
Hope this helps somebody else.
If you're stuck with a no crank, try letting the switch back a bit and see if you can get back to the barn.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch
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#2  
My 2005 CK30HST has only 38 hours now. It has been parked for 2-3 month intervals inside during the winter. The battery looked beautiful on late falls inspection, however I fully expected it to die prematurely from sitting. My storage container at the rec. property does not have AC voltage yet to use a trickle charger.
During Memorial weekend '06 visit, the glow plug cycle did its thing and the engine wouldn't crank---the relays would click however.
I have wanted an excuse to install an Optima battery so I ran to town and got one to eliminate the acid disease. I was surprised the Kirkland/ Costco battery leaked/boiled some acid and trashed the positive cable which began a bit of rust on the battery tray. I neutralized and cleaned area, installed new Optima battery and still no crank.
With my limited tools at the property I used a piece of wire to jump the starter B+ connection to the solenoid and it cranked.
I traced the relay to being the one under the hood on the firewall right side. I jumped the two larger guage starter wires at the relay and it cranked.
I figured no juice was energizing relay.
I poked around ignition switch and learned if I turned switch like usual and let it back some it would crank and start.
My dealer is too far to hassle with returning the whole tractor and I don't have a trailer for my rig, so I am seeing if they will send me a warranty swich to install and I can send the bum one back. I looks like an easy replacement.
If they MUST have the tractor for warranty consideration, I will just buy a switch and put it in---I'll post the result of the transaction.
Hope this helps somebody else.
If you're stuck with a no crank, try letting the switch back a bit and see if you can get back to the barn.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #3  
98 hours on my CK30hst and I haven't had that problem. Maybe just a Monday morning or Friday afternoon switch. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If you explain to your dealer how it's acting and what you did, he will more than likely send you the switch being that you are willing to install it yourself. Explain it to him/her well because they have to explain to the Kioti Rep. what they need and why. My dealer has done that for me with a BH part. One thing I found out, Kioti doesn't want the old parts back but your dealer might. That may be why the Kioti Rep. needs a good explanation of what's going on from the dealer.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #4  
98 hours on my CK30hst and I haven't had that problem. Maybe just a Monday morning or Friday afternoon switch. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

If you explain to your dealer how it's acting and what you did, he will more than likely send you the switch being that you are willing to install it yourself. Explain it to him/her well because they have to explain to the Kioti Rep. what they need and why. My dealer has done that for me with a BH part. One thing I found out, Kioti doesn't want the old parts back but your dealer might. That may be why the Kioti Rep. needs a good explanation of what's going on from the dealer.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch
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#5  
good to know they may just send one...this certainly wouldn't be the first time I am the "first" at having the "only" bum one out of the group---or a 'Friday' switch as you say... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
maybe some dealers here have seen one or two fail? of folks that maybe don't post here...
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch
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#6  
good to know they may just send one...this certainly wouldn't be the first time I am the "first" at having the "only" bum one out of the group---or a 'Friday' switch as you say... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
maybe some dealers here have seen one or two fail? of folks that maybe don't post here...
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #7  
Mine hasn't failed but I lubed it through the keyhole with wd-40 and the tach died, I cleaned it with electrical parts cleaner and it works again. At my dealer they have one of those machines that is being scavenged for parts. You know, the one tractor that get's things borrowed from it. It is a new CK25 and the whole ignition switch is missing. It looks to have been borrowed. Our ignition switches pointing up like they do seem likely to receive rain water if you don't use that protective cap.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #8  
Mine hasn't failed but I lubed it through the keyhole with wd-40 and the tach died, I cleaned it with electrical parts cleaner and it works again. At my dealer they have one of those machines that is being scavenged for parts. You know, the one tractor that get's things borrowed from it. It is a new CK25 and the whole ignition switch is missing. It looks to have been borrowed. Our ignition switches pointing up like they do seem likely to receive rain water if you don't use that protective cap.
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #9  
My protective cap broke off about 20 hours ago - anyone have a replacement suggestion?

I've also noted that my hydraulic stoppers ( those colored rubbery caps/plugs) haven't weathers well either, 2 have broken off and the rest look a bit frail.

David
 
   / CK30HST bad ignition switch #10  
My protective cap broke off about 20 hours ago - anyone have a replacement suggestion?

I've also noted that my hydraulic stoppers ( those colored rubbery caps/plugs) haven't weathers well either, 2 have broken off and the rest look a bit frail.

David
 

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