Burying stuff...

riptides · Feb 25, 2005

I have got a few outbuildings I need to get rid of.

The concrete slabs in particular baffle me. I would like to bust them up, I think hauling is cost prohibitive. So I was thinking about burying them. I would dig a nice area into the side of a slope and dump the remains there. I would cover with the soil I removed.

How deep? And does concrete work its way back up? Or better ideas?

Thanks.
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Taylortractornut · Feb 25, 2005

In my sideline business im constantly burying remains of building ore debris on the job clean up. Concrete will take several years if it ever will work up. Ive never had any to. Id think about the slope burial because the slope youll have loose backfilled dirt and it will wash away right there the quickest exposing the concrete. My backhoe has a 12 to 15 foot depth on it as well as my trackhoe so I bury alot of things deep. In my 10 years of being an operator Ivelearnt to dig the hole 50 perscnt bigger than you expect as you can run out of room in one if you cant dig a space beside it for another hole. ANother solution to your building slab destructionis making a stone retaining wall out of it. I had a customer have me break up a slab and it was consistant with the buildings good pad. I was taking the backhoes thumb and settin them into position stacking them one onto another like stones in a retaining wall while I waited for my driver to get back. THey had a spot I hd dug out of in a5 foot tall bank for fill dirt andthe customers wife asked if I could take a feew over there. Then she had my prybar settin thim into placeand moving them . Made a very nice dry stacked retaining wall that grows moss. I think we tore down 3 seds like that. I had to Load and haul all them to several different locations for her to hand stack into walls.
Most of my customers arent that creative but I have burried the building remains to get backfill dirt by displacing the solid with inert rubbish fill and then spreading dirt over it.

unclroy · Feb 25, 2005

You might want to check on your county regulations. I have heard that some counties prohibit the burying of certain types of construction debris.

RodgerF · Feb 26, 2005

A few years back I went through an extensive remodelling project on my old house including tearing down an old chimney. I rented a 20 yard dumpster for the project. I had the dumpster for a week and they hauled away anything I could stuff in it. Cost around $350 for the week.

Rodger

OkeeDon · Feb 26, 2005

I've been doing a lot of remodeling plus had a lot of debris from the hurricanes. In addition, I busted up a 6' x 40' slab that used to hold my propane dispenser and some concrete sidewalks no longer used. Our landfill gets $19/ton for construction debris. I loaded my dump trailer many times with debris and hauled it to the dump for ~$20 per load. Then, I put just a small portion of the concrete chunks into a mixed load, and the bill was over $50! I'm not hauling the rest; we're breaking the hunks into chunks and they're going into a hole. As for the county, first, what they don't know won't hurt them. Second, there's no difference in my mind between dumping gravel on the ground and having it work into the soil, or burying concrete chunks. I don't think there's anything in the concrete that didn't come out of the ground in the first place...

If I had a way to float them to the center of my pond, I'd dump the biggest hunks there. Should be good for fish structure.

drm · Feb 26, 2005

If you are going to bury the concrete dig a hole and fill around and over. Be sure to lay the pieces flat and fill around them with a layer of soil between each layer of concrete. This will help to reduce settling and washout. If you compact each layer as you go settling will be minimized even further.

Taylortractornut · Feb 28, 2005

Don a friend of mine got a load of busted up concrete 18 inch culvertbells and some 2 foot sections of it. We used them in his fish pond buy taking a load of bad inner tubes with a rope through each one of them and through the pipe. we then floated them out to the middle and took a rifle and shot one of the tubes. It dumps the air and the tube slide through the center of the culvert and we just got another one. Leaking truck tubes can be had for free. As for the burial procedures here I have been threatened by the county about buring a few things but in town the county also has filled in a large pit next to there shop with old bricks and other things. THey charge 6 dollars a cubic yard here to bury anything in ther local fill or put it into the transfer station. Id doesnt matter if its a half a load you get full price. I think the last time I dumped a load there was 240 bucks to dump out 40 yards of paper and wood debris.

Indydirtfarmer · Feb 28, 2005

A word of caution! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I bought a piece of property from my father-in-law last year. He moved houses for a living. This particular piece of ground was his "yard" where he stored equipment for years. He would dig a pit every now and then, to bury "stuff". Over the years, he buried lots of old lumber.

NOW.... I'm plagued with sub-terainian termites. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif And the cost of ridding the property of such..... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I moved a modular home onto the property, to be used as an office for one of my business's. Not a very pleasant place when they start swarming every spring. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

theboman · Feb 28, 2005

Find someone who has a creek bank that's washing out... The old concrete is great for stabilization of th toe bank. Check with the wildlife folks to see if there's any lakes that can use the concrete as habitat.

Bowhunter · Feb 28, 2005

( NOW.... I'm plagued with sub-terainian termites. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif And the cost of ridding the property of such..... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif )

Yep, they cost me $1600 last year, but they're gone now. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif