Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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Well Nissan is on thin ice financially, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with the lack of refinement of the leaf. Gotta give them props for attempting to build an EV that targets a less deep-pocketed market segment.

Honda and GM just announced a partnership where Honda will utilize some of GM's EV technology in their cars. While I wasn't surprised to see the partnership, I would have thought that Ford would have been a better fit.
Yes, Nissan and Nissan controlled Mitsubishi motors are struggling for survival, but this is the main problem for all manufacturers except Tesla in Europe

The CO2 timebomb: how manufacturers are failing to meet 221's 95g/km target | CAR Magazine
 
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Yes, Nissan and Nissan controlled Mitsubishi motors are struggling for survival, but this is the main problem for all manufacturers except Tesla in Europe

The CO2 timebomb: how manufacturers are failing to meet 221's 95g/km target | CAR Magazine

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Nissan has an EV history going back to 1947. The first year for a Nissan with a Lithium Ion battery was 1996. 2010 was the first sale of the Leaf in the USA. They claim they will have out a new EV in 2021 or 2022 that will be more like the Tesla Model 3 price wise.

Sadly the top management seem more interested sending former top management to prison than getting a newer EV technology on the road. I really was concerned on getting our battery replaced under warranty. I dropped off our 2016 Nissan Leaf SL for a new battery 30 Dec 2019 and they confirmed the battery had triggered the warranty coverage but after 4 weeks the Memphis division still had not approved the order for the new battery. Thankfully I had started the process though their National Leaf service rep and she made it happen. She called me on 10 Feb 2020 to see what I had been told and I said they still had never called me. She said to call them NOW. I did and they said they were on it after an email from the National Service Rep and they would call me when the battery was installed. The guy called me about an hour later and stated the battery had been installed earlier and it was ready for me to pick it up.

This is my 6th Nissan but the first one without a gas tank.

The up side to my mess was in Jan Nissan decided to replace the 30 kWa batteries with the 40 kWa batteries that came out in late 2017. On myleaf forum it was though they were out of old stock 30 kWa batteries and had a surplus due to the poor selling 40 kWh version of the Leaf.

My range was at 60 miles per full charge unlike the 107 EPA mile range when new. Now the range is 150 miles. The shop service writer said the Nissan list price was $12,500.00 and $500 labor. Someone was ticked I guess that I bought the car from a Nissan Dealership with 21.6K miles for $13,418.00 Oct 2019 after the selling dealership assured me I was in line for a new battery sooner than later. It triggered the warranty 5 weeks later on Turkey Day.

Before the pandemic Carlos (who escaped from Japan in a box) in a Jan 2020 interview stated Nissan would be in bankruptcy court by 2022. At that time 30-40% of USA dealerships were said to be losing money and 10% were just breaking even. Many Nissan dealerships were far from being Pro Leaf. It was not cost effective to set up a bay, equip it and send one or two service reps for training I was told. Japan tried to get a merger between them and Honda because they do not want Nissan to fail. Now GM and Honda are doing an alliance I read.

I think Nissan has a lot of talent but they are not in the decision making loop.
 
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If I remember correctly EV was Goshen baby, might have fallen victim for the power struggle between the Japanese and the foreign influenced from Europe and US. Don't know the US but in Europe they had only one model that sold quite well, but the rest was not selling much.

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Yes I think the anti Goshen movement cooked the future of Leaf and maybe the corporation. I think they shut the EV van factory in Spain. The Renault Zoe version of the Leaf I hear is a better version and does have active battery cooling. My new 40 kWa battery has already lost 3% of its State Of Health in the first 7 months and that is being careful and no fast DC charging. The 2016 OEM battery SOH was down to 63% in the first 40 months (24K miles) of use.

We are only about 100 miles from the Nissan factory in TN and we are covered up in Nissan cars and trucks because they were selling cheap to buy market share. Enterprise rental fleet was 30-40% Nissan but now their lot is almost empty of cars. Korean cars are doing a good job of replacing Nissan's sales in our area. The press reports where that Nissan was selling to the rental fleets at cost to build market share. No focus on profits can sink a good ship.
 
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Both Leaf and Zoe sell well here I Norway, but we are EV extremists as a country, so far in 2020 pure EV has around 50% market share.
 
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Kia and Hyundai are doing a great job, creative and put a lot of effort in design and experience quality, most Japanese brands are way to conservative to compete.

But Honda is starting to try whit the Honda E

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VW id3 I suppose will be all over the place in a few monthsvolkswagen-id3-iaa-2019-daniel-boennighausen-02-min.jpg
 
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The Polestar 2 is starting to sell wellimages.jpg
 
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Mazda MX30 EV is also out.Mazda-MX-30.jpg
 
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How many of these are for sale in the US?
 
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