Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #291  
I had never heard of the GM Toroflow even though I worked with a number of early and mid sixties GM's/Chevys. All gassers.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #292  
Saw on FB Market, 1994 F350, dump box, 5.8L V8... I'll bet that thing is a dog empty; put 4000# in the back, and I don't it will reach 60 mph. Many years ago, I worked for a plumbing company as a helper, cause I had a valid driver's license, unlike most of the plumbers... F250s, single cab, long utility bed, 5.8L, heavy pipe rack, and probably 1000# of tools and supplies; those things were Dogs. Not to say they didn't run, or get from A to B, but not the kinda performance anyone would seek out.
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   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #293  
Anyone remember the small Toyota dually, build of the pre-tacoma truck, used by Uhaul. 2.4L 4 cylinder. I think its rated for 87 hp?
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   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #294  
When I was volunteering at the local fire station, we had a couple of Ford 7 and 8 series cab chassis based Beck and Van Pelt buildups(one was '86, the other '89 if memory serves...). They both had CAT 3208T's. They worked well, but best you could get was 58-60mph on the freeway. One was covered by paid staff and used a lot. It just never got anywhere on the highway very quickly. Funny thing is, that Engine is now a taco truck...
In 1959 our national pride, Daf, came out with a 5.75 liter 165hp turbo diesel. They started building engines just two years prior by purchasing a license from Leyland, and where Leyland itself never got their turbo engines right, eventually leading to its demise, Daf got it right.

These trucks were also available as 6x6 25 ton GVW, but you had to work hard to drive 25 ton offroad with 165hp and 1959 turbo lag..

This truck is known among drivers as the frog.


In the same era, truckers were crossing the Brenner pass over the Alps, 44 ton with a naturally aspirated 11.6l engine with 240hp...

That was the era when poor brakes were lethal, and some trucks from the flat lands with tall gears, could not take off in 1st once stopped on the hills.

There is a tunnel now for 40 years across the Alps, but oldtimers talk in awe about the Brenner pass...

 
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   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #295  
A guy I worked for in my teen years/early 20’s had a late 80’s Ford flatbed with a 360 4 speed manual in it and even running empty, you’d have to drop down from 4th to 3rd to climb a modest hill.
 
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Forget the year now but I had a Ford F250, 360, 4spd. Not only a slug but a thirsty slug.
 
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A guy I worked for in my teen years/early 20’s had a late 80’s Ford flatbed with a 360 4 speed manual in it and even running empty, you’d have to drop down from 4th to 3rd to climb a modest hill.

A little trivia, the 360-390 "FE block" ended its pickup truck career in mid 1977. Next in line was the 351m-400 and later the 460 and 302-351w.
 
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Anyone remember the small Toyota dually, build of the pre-tacoma truck, used by Uhaul. 2.4L 4 cylinder. I think its rated for 87 hp?View attachment 4093915
Man, those 80s-90s vintage tacomas couldn't get out of their own way empty, don't even want to think about how much of slug they'd be with a load like that!
 
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Man, those 80s-90s vintage tacomas couldn't get out of their own way empty, don't even want to think about how much of slug they'd be with a load like that!
I had a '91. It was tough as nails but as you say; going down the interstate with my ATV in back, sometimes I'd have to shift into 4th. There's one intersection in Vermont where I'd stop on a hill, then turn left. I learned to put it into 4lo until I got on flat ground.
 

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