The Ferguson System and PTO Engagement

[milkman636]

I drove my first Ford 2N a month or so ago. I had to get it off a trailer. No instructions. I figured out how to get it started, but couldn’t get the 3 point hitch and landscape rake to raise.
Took a minute to figure that clutch had to be let out for 3 pth to operate.
Doesn’t that mean pump was in transmission?

I think Ford made the switch to engine driven live hydraulics with the NAA tractor in 1952ish, about the same time they were being sued by Ferguson and this video was made. Fergusons and Masseys stayed with transmission driven pumps.

 

[etpm]

Yes pump is built in under the seat but PTO needs to be running to make the pump work

The reason I bought my Yanmar YM2310 is because of the way my 9N 3PH worked. Having to engage the PTO to raise the 3PH. Can't pull the auger out of the hole unless it is spinning for example.

 

[John0829]

Just remember when the system came out in 1939 it was cutting edge tech. Like all things tech, improvement have been made over the years.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I think Ford made the switch to engine driven live hydraulics with the NAA tractor in 1952ish, about the same time they were being sued by Ferguson and this video was made. Fergusons and Masseys stayed with transmission driven pumps.

I never knew the term "live hydraulics" even existed before this thread. That concept was never conceived until you guys explained it to me.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I want to thank all of you for your enlightening responses to my thread. I definitely learned some new things about the progression of tractors. It boggles my mind how these technologies started out. What I once thought was the way it always was has turned out to not be the case.