Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758?

   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #51  
They are all overheat faults. I actually like the safety features that keep you from accidently toasting your engine. My x758 just shut the mower off two weeks ago when I was mowing. I'm glad it did because the temp gauge was just into the red zone. looked down and saw all the dandelion fluff on the screens. cleaned them out and I was on my way. Had it not been for that safety feature I would have probably overheated my engine.

I dont know about you guys but when I am mowing I am watching the edge of the mower and the edge of uncut grass from the last pass not the dash of my machine.

Mine is not a reoccuring persistent problem like the OP's but it is nice to have those features when they work properly.
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #52  
They are all overheat faults. I actually like the safety features that keep you from accidently toasting your engine. My x758 just shut the mower off two weeks ago when I was mowing. I'm glad it did because the temp gauge was just into the red zone. looked down and saw all the dandelion fluff on the screens. cleaned them out and I was on my way. Had it not been for that safety feature I would have probably overheated my engine.

I dont know about you guys but when I am mowing I am watching the edge of the mower and the edge of uncut grass from the last pass not the dash of my machine.

Mine is not a reoccuring persistent problem like the OP's but it is nice to have those features when they work properly.
I take you do not find this to be a con to this machine, but rather a pro? Reason I ask is I am considering a X754 that a local dealer has. Plus, it is a machine taken back on John Deere Promise for exactly this reason - only 16 hours on it.
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #53  
yes, I like the features when they work properly. Mine is a 2014 that I bought in 2015 and so far not much trouble with it. It has 375 hrs on it.

the OP definitely has problems with his and I would be mad If it was my machine.
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #54  
I take you do not find this to be a con to this machine, but rather a pro? Reason I ask is I am considering a X754 that a local dealer has. Plus, it is a machine taken back on John Deere Promise for exactly this reason - only 16 hours on it.
it's definitely a pro to have the engine shut down when it overheats, as far as what causes that, bad mowing conditions, weed buildup that was allowed to happen, weed killer was not used!.. this could happen to any small tractor, the full size tractors have the engines mounted much higher, so there's a reduced likely hood of it happening..
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #55  
Remarkably, I think I may have found part of the overheating problem. Like with every mower I have ever used, when mowing I almost always use full throttle.

It seems with this mower and its diesel engine, full throttle isn't necessary. With gas engines getting up in RPMs ensures good cutting, lift and discharge of debris. But with a diesel, its big torque lower on the RPM scale, full throttle doesn't seem necessary.

Still cuts extremely well (as it always did) but the lower running RPM there is less debris pull through the radiator and cooler.

Will continue to update as I learn something ....
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #56  
I never ran my X750 at full throttle, as you said, no need. Always pushed to full position, then backed off until one could clearly hear lower rpms. Too bad they
didn't put a tach on the engine, would have been very helpful. Full rpm creates rated mower blade tip speed which is important for the best cut with not so sharp blades.
Keep your mower blades sharp and don't try to cut fields with the mower and there is no reason to burn all that fuel unnecessarily. Too low rpms in very hot weather not a good idea either,
you need the air flow over the radiator.
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #57  
Too low rpms in very hot weather not a good idea either,
you need the air flow through the radiator.

^^fixed

We mow at the governed wide open throttle and blow all grass/dust off, including back blowing the radiator, everytime. x744
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #58  
^^fixed

We mow at the governed wide open throttle and blow all grass/dust off, including back blowing the radiator, everytime. x744

i can understand that if you are running in thick or tall grass. But just like you don't drive at the governed max speed of your car engine, unless you need the
maximum power output of the engine, which is what they sure advertise and have to deliver, every time..., then why have your engine at the max if you don't have to?
I'm not talking bogging along at 1500rpm, I'm talking 2000 vs 2300.

In boating taking an engine out all the way, governed or not, is called WOT, wide open throttle. Also called "on the pins".
Rarely are boats operated that way for very long.
They aren't designed to be operated at WOT from the beginning and there are maximum allowable times you can keep the throttle all the way forward.
Think the fishing boat that died on Jaws... ;)
Most planing hull boat diesels are run at 70-90% of WOT.
I owned a pair of 8V71Ti's and even with a good cooling system they would get hot running too hard too long.

Now JD and others have to design for engines that aren't taken care of as well as some of ours. We may blow off the engine, blow out the radiator and screens every time we come back from an hour or two of mowing, but the average consumer isn't that careful. Will be lucky screens are checked at next fuel stop, whenever that is. So there has to be extra cooling capacity built in to suffer a reasonable amount of use and even abuse. And you also don't need every hp your motor produces to mow 1-2 inches of grass off the top of your lawn usually. Admittedly if grass were damp I would run engine faster to get maximum blade tip speed out of mower and therefore more air flinging the clumping grass further.
Bottom line is I wouldn't run it that fast unless conditions demanded it and usually if you keep your blades sharp, they haven't for me.

Running a snowblower takes a lot of power so I can see a similar issue with material ejection velocity and need for power. But I still wouldn't push the throttle all the way up til it can't go
further simply because usually it runs just fine at a slower speed, and I use a lot less diesel. Maybe I'm cheap but why burn more fuel than you have to?
And some trawler diesels are happy to run at 1400 all day long as long as the engine finally reaches full operating temperature.

Most smaller gas engines in my experience are governed at 3600, sometimes 3200, but 3600 of course is the rpm for generators so it's a common standard.
Anyone buying a larger standby generator knows you usually want slower rpms which also produces less noise.
Engines usually last longer going slower, total piston distance traveled I think.

Yanmar has always specialized in high speed diesels, as well as gigantic bigger than a house slow speed engines for mega tankers.
Their recreational diesels really created a fuss when they came in at 3600rpm, unheard of to the 2300 rpm crowd. There were all expected to blow up and
for sure overheat. Which they didn't if given reasonable maintenance.

Bottom line is who has put a digital tach on their JD garden tractor diesel to see what rpm it runs at full throttle? I'd like to compare that rpm level to the rpm used for the
power rating of the engine. I bet it's lower. ??

My X750 temp gauge never ever moved from the same middle position on the idiot gauge for the 600 hours I owned it.
 
   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #59  
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   / Deere site reviews indicate the X754 has overheating issues. Why not X750 or X758? #60  
you're right, poor choice of words.
But if there is a throttle at all, is the engine governed? I think not, the operator sets the speed subject to a rev limitation imposed.
A true governed motor goes right to that speed, like on a generator.
The bottom line here is my memory tells me JD suggests in the operating manual the throttle be pushed all the way forward, without discussion of load.
Since I don't know of any tractor that suggests that, seems this clearly is a specific suggestion that deals with lawn mowers.
 

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