MF1754 smoking/DPF malfunctioning?

[NewLight]

Sorry for the absence, I have been out of town. But before I left I used some heavy card stock in front of the of the radiator to block air flow but never got a chance to run it. Having finally gotten back into town and a day off of work I was able to get the tractor out and see what would happen. And what happened was I was finally able to get the engine up to full operating temp (4 bars), also the smoking and smell from the exhaust went away. I think this adds to the certainty of the thermostat being faulty.

 

[NewLight]

Also I came across these two videos today, I think they seem appropriate.
Tractor Hacking: The Farmers Breaking Big Tech's Repair Monopoly - YouTube
How Hacking Is Advancing the World of Farming - YouTube

 

[jimmyhouser]

Manual regeneration procedure

Crank engine and warm until 3 bars appear on the temperature gauge. Set parking brake. Press and hold smoke button for 10 seconds or longer. Tractor will take care of itself.

ENGINE OIL DIPSTICK NOTICE

There are 3 levels on the dipstick. The lowest is the add mark. The one further up is the full mark. The notch out the side above the full mark means change your oil.

Sometimes, in manual regen the cylinders receive excessive amounts of fuel. Fuel may leak past the piston rings and dilute your engine oil, thus raising you engine oil level.

 

[rmc125mx]

Update: my 1742 has acted up 3 times (been to dealer every time) and now to the total of being away from me for a month. Luckily dealer gave me a loaner, boomer 47. Man those hydraulics are slowwww!!! Throughout this process, I've sent massey a couple angry emails and because of that, they are involved in the diag. This time they've had it for 2 weeks and massey suggested a sensor which is part of a harness. Apparently it's a $1000 part and thankfully under warranty. I don't know if this will fix it... I hope so. So aggravated because I turn the key to use it and just about 10 hours after getting it back, limp mode without warning. I hate playing Russian roulette especially when we have 11 horses and it still snowing a lot....

So this boomer, I've had it now for 20 hours and I sh** you not, did a regen 4 times!!! I've been running it pretty much around 2300-2500. Just for haha's, I asked the dealer what a trade in on my massey would be. Just rolled 310 hours, not even 2 years old, paid around 29k, they offered me mid 14k.... What the heck!! When I bought the tractor, they told me it will hold its value for a while. Lies!

So needless to say I'm in a love hate relationship with massey. Tractor is so comfortable and love all the features but hate this regen and all the bs that is happening right now. I'll keep ya posted

 

[30coupe]

Wow, I'm just in the process of buying a 1736...hoping to pick it up tomorrow. Now I'm having second thoughts. Maybe I should pay a bit more and get a 2538 HST Mahindra instead...no DPF filter, but I've heard Mahindra kind of makes up for it with other issues.

Crap! I thought trading my old 1972 issue IHC 454 for a brand new tractor was supposed to eliminate aggravation!

 

[rmc125mx]

Wow, I'm just in the process of buying a 1736...hoping to pick it up tomorrow. Now I'm having second thoughts. Maybe I should pay a bit more and get a 2538 HST Mahindra instead...no DPF filter, but I've heard Mahindra kind of makes up for it with other issues.

Crap! I thought trading my old 1972 issue IHC 454 for a brand new tractor was supposed to eliminate aggravation!

Well, I'm coming up to week 9 still without mine. I absolutely love the tractor otherwise..... My dealer has been amazing to me by giving me a free loaner when massey won't step up. Its now in massey' s repair hands and I still don't feel good about their diagnosis. They are replacing the turbo only problem is that it's on intergalactic back order from japan.... I heard that in the next couple months, massey is releasing premium models like your 36 and my 42 that don't have the dpf. What the crap, I want a new non dpf model ******!!!! Hope this doesn't scare you. I just seem to have bad luck with stuff

 

[30coupe]

I'm going to ask my dealer about the new non-DPF models. I haven't forked over any cash yet.

Well, I'm coming up to week 9 still without mine. I absolutely love the tractor otherwise..... My dealer has been amazing to me by giving me a free loaner when massey won't step up. Its now in massey' s repair hands and I still don't feel good about their diagnosis. They are replacing the turbo only problem is that it's on intergalactic back order from japan.... I heard that in the next couple months, massey is releasing premium models like your 36 and my 42 that don't have the dpf. What the crap, I want a new non dpf model ******!!!! Hope this doesn't scare you. I just seem to have bad luck with stuff

 

[onionfmr]

I'm going to ask my dealer about the new non-DPF models. I haven't forked over any
cash yet.

I've had my fair share of issues with my MF1754 HST cab over the last year and a half. You can see my threads if interested. I too have a love/hate relationship with Massey tractors. When this tractor is working, it is great and I'm thrilled with it. When it craps out, well!!! Have had three Massey compact tractors, last two with issues. I was hoping the 2nd one was a fluke. OK, not!

According to my dealer, the new Massey Ms are supposed to hit the dealer lots in July or August of this year. He is ordering and acquiring all the current 1700 series tractors he can get. Says he doesn't want to take a chance on new Ms as the first year of manufacture tends to have issues. Also, told me a price increase is coming! Just some food for thought.

 

[30coupe]

Well, I decided to go ahead with the 1736. I've been researching CUTs for months now and find that ALL brands have issues. I decided to go with the dealer 4 miles from my place. I've gotten good service from them, and he beat Mahindra's price for tractor, loader, backhoe, filled rears, and block heater. I hope I don't end up regretting my decision, but I've grown weary of the search.

 

[onionfmr]

Well, I decided to go ahead with the 1736. I've been researching CUTs for months now and find that ALL brands have issues. I decided to go with the dealer 4 miles from my place. I've gotten good service from them, and he beat Mahindra's price for tractor, loader, backhoe, filled rears, and block heater. I hope I don't end up regretting my decision, but I've grown weary of the search.

Congratulations on your decision and purchase. My dealer mainly sells 1736s. He told me that he has had very few, if any, issues with 1736s. They have a 1736 shop tractor with well over 2,000 hours on it and zero issues. I believe you have a really good chance of getting a great tractor. From what I seen and read, issues seem to be more apt to show up in 1754/1758 HST tractors. It is not all 1754/1758 HST tractors, but a few.

I understand getting tired of the research. I've been there, also. Enjoy your new tractor. I'll bet it serves you well for many years.

As a point, maybe I'm a gluten for punishment, I almost bought a 1758 HST a week ago. The devil you know versus the devil you don't. My Dealer couldn't swing the transfer with another dealer.

Good luck with your new tractor.

 

[30coupe]

Congratulations on your decision and purchase. My dealer mainly sells 1736s. He told me that he has had very few, if any, issues with 1736s. They have a 1736 shop tractor with well over 2,000 hours on it and zero issues. I believe you have a really good chance of getting a great tractor. From what I seen and read, issues seem to be more apt to show up in 1754/1758 HST tractors. It is not all 1754/1758 HST tractors, but a few.

I understand getting tired of the research. I've been there, also. Enjoy your new tractor. I'll bet it serves you well for many years.

As a point, maybe I'm a gluten for punishment, I almost bought a 1758 HST a week ago. The devil you know versus the devil you don't. My Dealer couldn't swing the transfer with another dealer.

Good luck with your new tractor.

Thanks, I hope you are right. The dealer brought it out for me to play with for a couple days while he's waiting for his shipment of fluid for the rears. I didn't put much time on it because 1) the bonehead in the shop didn't put fuel in it as promised 2) I soon discovered that the loader has almost zero down pressure! Not only would it not lift the front wheels off the ground, it wouldn't even try! If I rolled the bucket with the loader arms fully down, it just lifted the arms. If I raised the arms, tilted the bucket, and tried to drop the arms, it just squealed. Adding throttle just made it squeal louder but didn't add down pressure. Not only does this make back dragging virtually impossible, even attempting to skim some dirt with the bucket didn't work. I had to tilt the bucket down so far it just wanted to dig in too deep. I also have the BH75 backhoe ordered, so I see the lack of down pressure as a safety concern as well, since the loader bucket is part of the stabilization system for the hoe.

I called him and told him if that was the way it was going to work, no money was going to change hands. The came an picked it back up. I'll be back down to the acreage on Wednesday, so we'll see if I'm going to make a purchase or have them bring the old IHC 454 back. It needs a new distributor, and it leaks from a few locations, but at least the loader will lift the front end off the ground!

To be fair, the dealer just got the tractor and probably hadn't had a chance to check it out very much before he brought it out to me. Can any of you shed any light on this? Am I correct that there is obviously something amiss with this loader?

 

[rmc125mx]

Thanks, I hope you are right. The dealer brought it out for me to play with for a couple days while he's waiting for his shipment of fluid for the rears. I didn't put much time on it because 1) the bonehead in the shop didn't put fuel in it as promised 2) I soon discovered that the loader has almost zero down pressure! Not only would it not lift the front wheels off the ground, it wouldn't even try! If I rolled the bucket with the loader arms fully down, it just lifted the arms. If I raised the arms, tilted the bucket, and tried to drop the arms, it just squealed. Adding throttle just made it squeal louder but didn't add down pressure. Not only does this make back dragging virtually impossible, even attempting to skim some dirt with the bucket didn't work. I had to tilt the bucket down so far it just wanted to dig in too deep. I also have the BH75 backhoe ordered, so I see the lack of down pressure as a safety concern as well, since the loader bucket is part of the stabilization system for the hoe.

I called him and told him if that was the way it was going to work, no money was going to change hands. The came an picked it back up. I'll be back down to the acreage on Wednesday, so we'll see if I'm going to make a purchase or have them bring the old IHC 454 back. It needs a new distributor, and it leaks from a few locations, but at least the loader will lift the front end off the ground!

To be fair, the dealer just got the tractor and probably hadn't had a chance to check it out very much before he brought it out to me. Can any of you shed any light on this? Am I correct that there is obviously something amiss with this loader?

I'm going to say that there is something wrong with the hydraulics. My 42, the hydraulics are awesome!!!! The loader is wicked fast and always had power. Well I wish I got a 1749 with the 135 loader but I couldn't swing the extra money. The couple boomers I've had while mine is in the shop and my dad's deere, the massey blows them away in the hydraulic department. I hope they fix it and your machine runs great. Super jealous of the backhoe.... Also a great move loading the tires from the start. I didn't and should have!!! With loaded tires and 1000lb weight box, she can get light at times but so happy I finally loaded them

 

[onionfmr]

Thanks, I hope you are right. The dealer brought it out for me to play with for a couple days while he's waiting for his shipment of fluid for the rears. I didn't put much time on it because 1) the bonehead in the shop didn't put fuel in it as promised 2) I soon discovered that the loader has almost zero down pressure! Not only would it not lift the front wheels off the ground, it wouldn't even try! If I rolled the bucket with the loader arms fully down, it just lifted the arms. If I raised the arms, tilted the bucket, and tried to drop the arms, it just squealed. Adding throttle just made it squeal louder but didn't add down pressure. Not only does this make back dragging virtually impossible, even attempting to skim some dirt with the bucket didn't work. I had to tilt the bucket down so far it just wanted to dig in too deep. I also have the BH75 backhoe ordered, so I see the lack of down pressure as a safety concern as well, since the loader bucket is part of the stabilization system for the hoe.

I called him and told him if that was the way it was going to work, no money was going to change hands. The came an picked it back up. I'll be back down to the acreage on Wednesday, so we'll see if I'm going to make a purchase or have them bring the old IHC 454 back. It needs a new distributor, and it leaks from a few locations, but at least the loader will lift the front end off the ground!

To be fair, the dealer just got the tractor and probably hadn't had a chance to check it out very much before he brought it out to me. Can any of you shed any light on this? Am I correct that there is obviously something amiss with this loader?

Really sorry to hear of your problem. Definitely something wrong with the hydraulics! I can easily pick the wheels off the ground with my 1754, sometimes when I even don't intend to. In fact, all three Massey compact tractors that I've had could and would easily lift the front tires off the ground. I pop 3" and 4" tree stumps out of the ground rolling my bucket, plenty of power. Did you check the hydro fluid levels?

I would make them get me another 1736 tractor unless they find something stupid easy that was wrong. Hopefully, they have another 1736 on the lot. My dealer always has several 1736s on the lot. DON'T START OUT WITH A PROBLEM TRACTOR! YOU WILL NEVER BE HAPPY WITH IT! ASK ME HOW I KNOW!

 

[30coupe]

Really sorry to hear of your problem. Definitely something wrong with the hydraulics! I can easily pick the wheels off the ground with my 1754, sometimes when I even don't intend to. In fact, all three Massey compact tractors that I've had could and would easily lift the front tires off the ground. I pop 3" and 4" tree stumps out of the ground rolling my bucket, plenty of power. Did you check the hydro fluid levels?

I would make them get me another 1736 tractor unless they find something stupid easy that was wrong. Hopefully, they have another 1736 on the lot. My dealer always has several 1736s on the lot. DON'T START OUT WITH A PROBLEM TRACTOR! YOU WILL NEVER BE HAPPY WITH IT! ASK ME HOW I KNOW!

Well, it was stupid simple! One of the quick couples wasn't fully engaged. The tech said it probably never was from the factory. As I said, they had just gotten the tractor in and hadn't run it through prep yet when they brought it out for me to play with. The owner tested it himself and said after plugging the QC in, it popped the wheels 1 1/2 to 2' off the ground. I guess that's a good lesson for me: just because the QCs look like they are plugged in, don't assume they are. At least now I know what to check if it makes that squealing noise again.

So they are loading the tires, filling it with fuel, and checking everything over so they can deliver it on Wednesday. I'm excited to see what it will do with ballast in the tires and all the cylinders operating properly. He's going to call me when he has a delivery date on the backhoe.

 

[onionfmr]

Well, it was stupid simple! One of the quick couples wasn't fully engaged. The tech said it probably never was from the factory. As I said, they had just gotten the tractor in and hadn't run it through prep yet when they brought it out for me to play with. The owner tested it himself and said after plugging the QC in, it popped the wheels 1 1/2 to 2' off the ground. I guess that's a good lesson for me: just because the QCs look like they are plugged in, don't assume they are. At least now I know what to check if it makes that squealing noise again.

So they are loading the tires, filling it with fuel, and checking everything over so they can deliver it on Wednesday. I'm excited to see what it will do with ballast in the tires and all the cylinders operating properly. He's going to call me when he has a delivery date on the backhoe.

Glad to hear it was an easy fix! Looking forward to hearing how you like it once you get some hours on it.

 

[thclimer]

Congratulations on your 1736 purchase!

My loader has always been very quick compared to my New Holland and both the NH & Massey loader will lift the front end up so that you can easily install chains if need by freely turning the front wheels as they are off the ground.

You'll enjoy it.

 

[Murphyjs123]

Did you ever figure this out?