START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800??

   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #11  
Diesel synthetic for Diesel engines specifically. CI= Compression ignition; diesels. SI= spark ignition, engines with spark plugs/gasoline.
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Actually.. on the API spec... C is for 'comercia'l.. S is for 'service'... though I agree.. S for spark and C for compression would make much more sense...
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #12  
Actually.. on the API spec... C is for 'comercia'l.. S is for 'service'... though I agree.. S for spark and C for compression would make much more sense...

Well, I guess I was misled on that one!?:confused3: Thought it was what I stated based on info from others; can't rely on anyone these days.:laughing:

So let's just make my concept the new STANDARD!:shocked:
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #13  
Well, I guess I was misled on that one!?:confused3: Thought it was what I stated based on info from others; can't rely on anyone these days.:laughing:

So let's just make my concept the new STANDARD!:shocked:

not your fault.

I fully agree.. it should be compression / spark.

I used to think it was too.. finally loked it up and found out otherwise..
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #14  
not your fault.

I fully agree.. it should be compression / spark.

I used to think it was too.. finally loked it up and found out otherwise..

That's what happens when you think too much.:eek:
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800??
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Heading out to buy the full synthetic and a Kubota oil filter..thanks.

3 air filter questions:

-Spoke to Kubota parts guy yesterday and he told me I could clean and wash my outer air filter.
The one that came on this tractor is very dirty! Am I wrong in wanting to buy a new air filter rather
than wash this old one? I can't see how the dislodged dirt won't end up on the inside of the filter-bad news.

-He also said that his customers say that they spray the outside of the paper filter with wd-40...good of bad idea??
Wondering if I can mist the paper filter with the K&N air filter oil that I use on my auto filters?

-Does K&N make filters for Kubota tractors..seems like the way to go?
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #16  
I am sure K&N does as they make them for Lawn Mowers now. Don't spray WD on yours its not that style
http://www.knfilters.com/
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #17  
Heading out to buy the full synthetic and a Kubota oil filter..thanks.

3 air filter questions:

-Spoke to Kubota parts guy yesterday and he told me I could clean and wash my outer air filter.
The one that came on this tractor is very dirty! Am I wrong in wanting to buy a new air filter rather
than wash this old one? I can't see how the dislodged dirt won't end up on the inside of the filter-bad news.

-He also said that his customers say that they spray the outside of the paper filter with wd-40...good of bad idea??
Wondering if I can mist the paper filter with the K&N air filter oil that I use on my auto filters?

-Does K&N make filters for Kubota tractors..seems like the way to go?

Wow, some really bad advice above. Read your owner's manual and it will tell you to NEVER! wash a paper air filter. You can blow out an outer air filter a couple times if you know how but if the outer is that dirty just replace them both. If you are a newbie this is a great place to get into trouble and do very costly or irreparable damage.

The guy that said to spray WD-40 on a paper filter must be new or not clued in both. Now, the B7800 INNER air filter is a mesh type screen but the service manual says to replace it as a consumable. To spray oil or anything or even fool with an inner filter is just asking for injector or engine trouble. No, there is no K and N filter for the B7800 and likely will never be for the reasons mentioned above.

Read the owner's manual. Kubota has a good one.
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #18  
I thought K&N would have about everything covered by now.
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #19  
I have washed paper filters off lawnmowers in solvent to remove greasy/oily residue from outside then blown dry with no ill effects to the filter. I wouldn't recommend doing that on a high dollar tractor engine though as the filters are readily available and usually less than $30.

Recommended way to clean per my owners manual is to lightly bump the filter on the tractor tire while rotating it to dislodge loose dust particles. Blowing out with low pressure air (60PSI or so) is also recommended but don't get the nozzle too close to the paper. I bump mine to get out most of the dust, then blow with air. I angle the air nozzle at 45 degrees to the outside of the filter to blow out the major dust particles, then work the inside using the same method. I have never damaged on yet. Don't mess with the inside filter (if your tractor has one) unless it is dirty. If it has dirt/dust on it, that means your external filter is bad and you need to replace both filters.
My Manual recommends replacement yearly but I don't replace mine unless the outside is black & dirty, but I don't put that many hours per year on my tractors. Even on our farm tractors with a thousand hours per year, we didn't replace the filter unless it was damaged, just cleaned them daily. As long as the engine isn't starving for air and the filter is not leaking there really isn't a need to change it out on a yearly basis.

Cleaning periodically (every 10 hours in dust conditions and weekly in normal ) will make it last a long time as long as you are careful and don't damage the paper element.
 
   / START USING FULL SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL AFTER 400 HOURS..2004 B7800?? #20  
Just purchased this 2004 b-7800 with 422 hours. Thinking of using Rotella T6
Full Synthetic motor oil. Will switching to the full synthetic cause any problems?

Any other oil that you would advise using on this 30hp 4cyl.?
I use Rotella T and T6 in all my equipment gas and diesel mainly because it is readily available just about everywhere I shop. Any major brand of C rated oil meeting your manufacturers spec (see owners manual) like CI,CJ, CL etc will work well. I don't do the high dollar Kubota oils with extreme dealer markups as I don't think they are any better than any other brand name oil meeting the same specification. Synthetic and synthetic blends will give you better low temperature lubrication and longer duration between changes. If using synthetic, I would go with full synthetic rather than a blend due to little difference in cost.

Most folks have a preference to use a certain brand just because they have been using it with no failures. I have never heard of an engine failure due to lubrication failure of the OIL itself regardless of brand. Oil pumps fail and other mechanical things fail, but not because of the lubrication properties of the oil.
Choose your favorite brand and just stick with it. Shell, Mobil, Valvoline, Pennzoil, Quaker State, etc are all good oils. I have even seen the Walmart brand Tech oil posted with good results but I have never been inclined to use it myself. Personally I will stick with a major brand name, just because.
 

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